Frank and Evan examine the case of Wilcox, from his alarming knife-wielding incident at a McDonald's to his eventual arrest after thefts and violent resistance. They analyze police tactics, decision-making under pressure, and the psychological nuances of Wilcox's behavior. Tune in for a gripping discussion of unpredictable situations faced by law enforcement.
Frank Malone
Alright, folks, welcome to another episode of Felony Stop.
Dr. Evan Carter
Yes, and thank you for joining us! Whether youâre new here or youâve been with us since day one, weâre thrilled to have you along for this ride.
Frank Malone
Yep, and if you're here expecting roses and happy endings, you might wanna buckle up. This isnât that kind of story.
Dr. Evan Carter
Frankâs being Frank, of course. But seriously, weâve got a fascinating case to dive into todayâand itâs one that really highlights some, well, letâs say colorful moments in human behavior.
Frank Malone
Colorfulâs one way to put it. Me? Iâd probably just call it a mess.
Dr. Evan Carter
And messy it is, but before we dive in, we just wanted to say how much we appreciate all the love and support weâve been getting on this podcast. Your comments and messagesâthey really keep us going. We couldnât do this without you.
Frank Malone
Yeah, what he said. I donât usually go all sentimental, but seeing you folks actually care about this stuff, well, it means something. So, thanks for sticking around.
Dr. Evan Carter
We especially loved some of the comments from our last episode. Letâs bring up one that really cracked us up. A listener named Julie wrote, âFrank, do you ever actually smile, or does Dr. Carter do it for both of you?â
Frank Malone
Yeah, Julie, for the record, I do smileâevery time Carter here trips over one of his long-winded theories.
Dr. Evan Carter
Oh, come on! That only happened onceâor twice. Okay, maybe three times. Iâll work on it. But seriously, I thought that was hilarious. Keep the comments coming, folksâwe love getting them, and who knows, we might just read yours next.
Dr. Evan Carter
And some of you had some really thoughtful questions, too. Like Tony, who asked, âWhat makes someone snap like that? Is it something anyoneâs capable of?â
Frank Malone
Good question, Tony. Yâknow, in my years on the force, Iâve seen some folks do things youâd think were way out of character. Itâs like pressure builds and, bam, theyâre not themselves. But thatâs more Carterâs playground, right?
Dr. Evan Carter
Absolutely, Frank. And thatâs exactly the kind of question weâll touch on in episodes like todayâs. What drives someone to act out, especially in such chaotic and extreme ways? Is it a split-second impulse or a slow burn? Weâre going to explore those layers bit by bit.
Frank Malone
Right. So letâs not keep âem waiting. Enough small talk. Letâs dig into this case and see just how messy a human train wreck can get.
Frank Malone
Alright, enough teasing, folks. Letâs get into the thick of it. July twentieth, twenty twenty-two. Port Townsend. Itâs just after three in the morning, and things are about to take a sharp left.
Dr. Evan Carter
Thatâs rightâthis is when William Leroy Wilcox, the centerpiece of this story, was arrested. But make no mistake, this wasnât your average apprehension. Weâre talking chaos, confusion, and, well, a chipped tooth.
Frank Malone
Yeah, poor guy. Not Wilcox. The officer. A chipped tooth and probably a hell of a headache to go with it.
Dr. Evan Carter
Right, and that momentâwhen Wilcox, uh, allegedly, punches the officer in the jawâis just the climax of a much bigger mess that began earlier that night. Letâs rewind a bit.
Frank Malone
Yeah, so this circus starts at a McDonaldâs patio. Wilcox is reportedly... âacting erratically.â Thatâs cop code for waving around a knife, doing what the report calls âtricks.â Now, I donât know what kind of tricks you can pull off with a blade, but Iâm guessing it wasnât childâs magic show material.
Dr. Evan Carter
Right. And from there, he moves on to Kah Tai Lagoon, just across the street. The parkâs closed after dark, by the way, but Wilcox doesnât seem too worried about rules at this point. Heâs approached by an officer andâoh, hereâs where it gets interestingâhe gives a fake name. âWilliam McCann.â Plausible, but false.
Frank Malone
Sure. Every copâs heard their share of fake names, but when they donât match anything in the system? Red flag. So what does Wilcox do next? He takes off running.
Dr. Evan Carter
Of course, right? Why stick around when things arenât going your way? But hereâs the kickerâthis wasnât just one, clean getaway. Wilcox doubles back, circles the park, even grabs a bottle of Gatorade off some poor guy's picnic table just to keep going.
Frank Malone
Yeah, Brian Burroughs, if youâre listening, hats off for keeping your cool while a random dude snatches your drink. Most folks would lose it right there, but not you.
Dr. Evan Carter
Exactly. Eventually, though, Wilcox crosses paths with the same officer again. Theyâre near Kearney and Blaine Streets, and this time things escalateâfast.
Frank Malone
Yeah. The officer tries to take him down, even uses a Taser. Twice. No effect. Wilcox resists, gets one arm free, andâbamâthrows a punch. A haymaker, no less, right to the officerâs jaw. That tooth? Say goodbye.
Dr. Evan Carter
Oof. And from there, itâs another chase. Wilcox flees into the park again, but backupâs already closing in. When they finally catch him, heâs got scratches all over from tearing through the woods, and heâs somehow still shouting accusations like heâs the one being wronged.
Frank Malone
Sounds about right. And when itâs all said and done, they charge him with the worksâassault on an officer, resisting arrest, providing a false name, trespassing... Oh, and donât forget that stolen Gatorade.
Dr. Evan Carter
A very expensive Gatorade now, given the circumstances. But the big question hereâand what I think we really want to unpackâis, what drives someone to behave like this? Erratic actions, aggression, fleeing from officers... Itâs like a perfect storm of poor choices and heightened emotions.
Frank Malone
Or maybe just a guy hopped up on something he shouldnât have been. But hey, letâs not get ahead of ourselves.
Frank Malone
Alright, letâs take a closer look at where it all kicked offâthe McDonaldâs patio. We touched on this earlier, but imagine it: youâre settling in with your late-night snack, and suddenly thereâs Wilcox, wielding a razor blade, calling it âtricks.â Not exactly dinner entertainment, right?
Dr. Evan Carter
Right, and not just any knife tricks, either. Weâre talking something disruptive enough to scare employees into avoiding him altogether. That says a lot. The fear instinct in bystanders isnât something that just comes out of nowhereâitâs a response to a perceived threat. And here, they clearly saw one.
Frank Malone
Yeah, they called the cops, and spoiler alertâthe cops show up. First thing they ask? The usual: whatâs your name, buddy? And our friend Wilcox says, âWilliam McCann.â You know, a random name that rolls off the tongue but doesnât actually exist in any database. If I had a dollar for every fake name I heard on the jobâŠ
Dr. Evan Carter
Itâs classic deflection, Frank. When someoneâs cornered, giving a fake name buys them a little time to thinkâor at least thatâs Wilcoxâs logic here. Psychologically, though, thereâs more to it. Providing a false identity, especially while visibly agitated, is often a sign of fight-or-flight instincts kicking in.
Frank Malone
Well, he definitely chose âflightâ that night. Cops let him go at firstâno cause to hold him from what I see. He walked off. Probably seemed like all was calm. Now, Carter, back me up here, should they have detained him just because of the knife?
Dr. Evan Carter
Itâs tricky. In theory, allowing him to leave seems reasonableâafter all, displaying a blade isnât inherently a crime. But, based on his unpredictable behavior and stress signals, an intervention mightâve been safer. Itâs a tough spot for law enforcement, honestly.
Frank Malone
Sounds like youâre playing Monday-morning quarterback to me, doc. But hey, speaking of unpredictable, this isnât the first time Iâve seen a guy like this. Reminds me of a guy years backâhe was juggling street signs heâd pulled out of the ground. Did a bit of a dance, swore he was auditioning for the circus. Long story short, mental health plus meth equals things you donât wanna mess with.
Dr. Evan Carter
Exactly. And Wilcoxâs behavior at McDonald's fits a similar mold. Erratic movements, unwillingness to engage meaningfullyâthatâs textbook paranoia. But even deeper than that, hereâs a man spinning out of control, likely driven by a combination of substance use and underlying psychological issues. Itâs like a fire thatâs just waiting to erupt.
Frank Malone
And erupt it did. The very next night, heâs spotted tearing around Kah Tai Lagoon like a rabbit dodging a hawk. The officer sees him again, same guy in a closed park. Itâs dark, Wilcox shouldnât be there, and when the officer tries to get a straight name out of him, guess what? More B.S. And thatâs where the real chase begins.
Dr. Evan Carter
But this initial encounter at McDonald's is key. Itâs the first glimpse of the downward spiral. Wilcox, already in over his head, is starting to make a series of poor, reactive decisions. And it raises a compelling questionâwhat couldâve been done here to change the course of the next twenty-four hours?
Frank Malone
Or, if you ask me, was there anything cops really couldâve done to stop the time bomb from going off? Sometimes, people just keep digging deeper into their hole, no matter the warnings. But hold that thoughtâweâre only getting started here.
Frank Malone
So, following that first glimpse at the McDonald's, it didnât take long for the spiral to pick up speed. This wasnât just one of those routine trespassing calls the next night. Nope, it turned into the kind of chaos that officers will be swapping stories about over coffee for years to come.
Dr. Evan Carter
Right, Frank. It all started with Officer Fudally approaching Wilcox after seeing him in a park after hours. A misdemeanor infraction on paper, sure, but Wilcox doesnât exactly help his case. He gives yet another fake name. At this point, that lie probably felt bigger than the park itself.
Frank Malone
"William McCann," he claims. Solid name, real confident delivery. Except it doesnât exist. And lemme tell you, cops know when a nameâs fake. Itâs a gut thing. Doesnât show up in the system? Thatâs strike one. But Wilcox⊠Wilcox doesnât stick around long enough for strikes two and three. He bolts.
Dr. Evan Carter
Classic flight response, isnât it? The moment stress ramps up, he makes the split-second decision to run. Hereâs the thing about someone like Wilcoxâwhen survival instincts override rational thought, they go all-in. Plus, add the likelihood of substance impairment, and youâre looking at someone operating purely on adrenaline and impulse.
Frank Malone
Yeah, adrenaline alright. He runs, doubles back, circles the parkâthis isnât your average sprint for freedom. And somewhere in there, he swipes a Gatorade right off some guyâs table. Like, who does that? Itâs almost... surreal.
Dr. Evan Carter
Itâs desperation, plain and simple. Basic needsâgetting hydrated, fueledâmixed with chaos. Heâs not planning; heâs reacting. But look at the bigger picture, Frank. The fake name, the erratic running, the random theftâit all screams someone trying to cling to control in a pretty out-of-control way.
Frank Malone
Control? This guy was spiraling, spinning wheels, flinging mud everywhere. Eventually, Fudally catches up with him near Kearney and Blaine Streets. And hereâs where it goes from âmessyâ to outright dangerous. Officer tries to arrest him, and our friend Wilcox doesnât take too kindly to that.
Dr. Evan Carter
No understatement there! Wilcox resists, and things escalate fast. Officer Fudally tries a Taserâtwiceâbut thereâs no effect. Thatâs when Wilcox gets free enough to throw a punch. A haymaker, they called it, straight to Fudallyâs jaw. One chipped tooth later, and the situationâs officially out of hand.
Frank Malone
Yeah, and for an officer, thatâs a nightmare moment. Youâre already dealing with a guy whoâs unpredictable, amped up onâwhat, maybe meth?âand now youâre injured mid-scrap. Your bodyâs screaming at you to retreat, but you know youâve got to see it through before someone else gets hurt.
Dr. Evan Carter
Exactly. Wilcox, on the other hand, isnât slowing down. He bolts again, this time into the park where heâs eventually cornered. By now thereâs backup, and the law catches up to him. But even in custody, Wilcox is shouting accusations and playing the victim. Itâs an almost defiant refusal to accept reality.
Frank Malone
Yeah, because nothing says âinnocenceâ like running through the woods, shirt ripped, screaming bloody murder. Itâs a bad look any way you slice it. And when the dust settles, theyâre piling on chargesâeverything from the trespass to assault, and more.
Dr. Evan Carter
Whatâs fascinating to me is how a confrontation like this snowballs so quickly. Itâs like each poor decision feeds into the nextâa chain reaction of bad outcomes. And yet, underneath it all, you have to wonder about the root cause. Is it desperation? Addiction? A deeper psychological struggle?
Frank Malone
Could be all of the above, honestly. But the way I see itâand Iâve chased down my fair share of guysâsometimes itâs just a case of cornered animal logic. Scratch, bite, and run until you either get away or someone puts a stop to it.
Dr. Evan Carter
And what a chaotic stop it was. But Frank, hereâs my question: could all of thisâthe chipped tooth, the chase, even Wilcoxâs wild fightâhave been avoided if someone had stepped in earlier? Maybe that McDonald's incident was the moment.
Frank Malone
Maybe. Or maybe this was just the inevitable train wreck no one could slow down. But that Gatorade snatch? Thatâs a whole other layer we need to talk about...
Frank Malone
So letâs pick up from that Gatorade grab, because honestly, itâs such a window into Wilcoxâs headspace. Heâs mid-chase, probably running on fumes, and yet he takes the time to snag a bottle off some guyâs picnic table. Not just unpredictableâit's like heâs rewriting the rules of his own personal survival manual as he goes.
Dr. Evan Carter
Exactly. And while grabbing someoneâs drink seems almost absurd, think about it through the lens of survival psychology. Wilcox wasnât planningâhe was acting on impulse, driven by immediate needs. Thirst, energy, maybe even just the impulse to grab something familiar in the storm of chaos he created.
Frank Malone
I hear you, Doctor, but stealing Gatorade in the middle of a chase? Thatâs next-level bizarre. And it doesnât stop there. Earlier that night, he takes a bottle of booze, tooâuses it to get money for food, or at least thatâs what he says later on. It all feels a little⊠sloppy, honestly.
Dr. Evan Carter
It does, but hereâs the thingâsloppy doesnât always mean uncalculated. When youâre in survival mode, the brain prioritizes immediate gratification over long-term consequences. His actionsâgrabbing the Gatorade, stealing alcoholâthese are all fueled by a kind of tunnel vision.
Frank Malone
Tunnel vision or not, Iâd chalk some of this up to something simplerâsubstance use. The officer on the scene described his behavior as erratic, paranoid. Hell, sounds like meth to me. That stuff rewires your brain; youâre not thinking straight.
Dr. Evan Carter
Absolutely, substances like meth heighten impulsivity and aggression. But they also amplify existing tendencies. So if Wilcox was already teetering on the edge of desperation, drugs pushed him straight over. And that brings us to his fleeing behaviorâitâs a classic fight-or-flight response, almost animalistic in its execution.
Frank Malone
Animalisticâs right. The guyâs running circles at the park, cutting through alleys, ducking into woods. He even manages to outmaneuver a Taser at one pointânot once, but twice. Thatâs not just adrenaline, Carterâthatâs someone who knows theyâre cornered and willing to throw anything at the wall to get away.
Dr. Evan Carter
And not to be overlooked, every moveâevery twist and turnâfeels like an attempt to hold onto some semblance of control. Even if itâs fleeting. But, Frank, letâs talk about the law enforcement side. What did you think of their tactics to contain someone this unpredictable?
Frank Malone
Honestly? Itâs textbook perimeter workâcontainmentâs the name of the game. I canât fault âem there. But situations like this, they turn on a dime. One minute you think you've got him boxed in, the next heâs snagging a guyâs Gatorade and youâre back at square one. Itâs like wrestling a greased pig in the dark.
Dr. Evan Carter
Well, that visualâs going to stick with me. But think about the emotional state Wilcox mustâve been inâpanic, paranoia, and likely withdrawal symptoms. His brain isnât equipped to slow down and strategize the way law enforcement can.
Frank Malone
True, but letâs not paint him as just a victim of circumstance, either. This guy threw a haymaker at an officer and chipped his tooth. You wanna feel sympathy? Save it for Officer Fudally. Containing Wilcox wasnât just about catching him; it was about protecting everyone else in the area from his chaos.
Dr. Evan Carter
Agreed. And we have to askâis this type of escalation preventable? Could officers have de-escalated earlier, or was it doomed to spiral the way it did?
Frank Malone
Thatâs the million-dollar question, Doc. But sometimes? Sometimes you just canât stop someone determined to burn through all their bad decisions in one night.
Dr. Evan Carter
Frank, as we wrap up our analysis of Wilcox, I can't help but reflect on just how unpredictable and multifaceted human behavior becomes under pressure. Cases like hisâyou know, they really push us to uncover the layers of what drives someone to make the choices he did. Itâs fascinating, isnât it?
Frank Malone
Yeah, fascinatingâs one word for it. I might go with exhausting. But hey, thatâs why we do thisâto make sense of the mess and maybe learn a thing or two along the way.
Dr. Evan Carter
Exactly. And for everyone listening out there, thank you for taking the time to join us today. Your support and the way you engage with the podcast really mean the world to us. We couldnât do this without you.
Frank Malone
Seriously, we appreciate it. I might not get all mushy like Carter here, but seeing the comments and hearing your thoughts? Itâs good stuff. Makes all this worth it.
Dr. Evan Carter
Frank Malone
Dr. Evan Carter
Well said. And keep those comments coming, folks. Theyâre not just entertaining for usâthey add to the conversation. So if you have thoughts, questions, or just a good laugh to share, we want to hear them.
Frank Malone
Yeah, and donât forget to share this with friends. More ears, more minds in the mixâit just makes all this better.
Dr. Evan Carter
Plus, if youâre interested in visual context, like bodycam footage, weâve got that too. Check out our YouTube channelâEye On Patrol. Just search âeye on patrol 2025ââall one wordâand youâre good to go.
Frank Malone
Yep. Thatâs where youâll see the kind of chaos weâre talking about. Just make sure youâre sitting down when you watch it.
Dr. Evan Carter
Alright, well, thatâs all for today. Thanks again for listening, and weâll see you next time!
Frank Malone
Stay safe out there, folks. Catch you on the next one.
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